Welcome to our beloved Hong Kong, a city that is packed with bankers who have a craze on boasting about their high income, high status and high turnover rate with girls. Hong Kong girls who are proud of being materialistic love those finance guys. So how do these finance guys (FG) attract a Hong Kong girl?
The Typical FGs
A typical FG trys to be honest to the Hong Kong girl whom he want to attract. When a girl asks them “what do you do?”. This would be their response: “I work for a bank. Have you heard about Goldman Sex? They are the top bank in the US and I myself alone am managing over 10 million USD of assets for my high-net-worth clients”. Normally, he can expect a “wow” from the girl with a pair of sparkling eyes staring at him.
The Insecured FGs
These type of finance guys think that they can use their banker identity to attract whatever girl they want, they’re dying to tell the girl that they work for a bank before the girl even ask what do they do. They never give up 1 second of time to puff about their wealth, saying how big responsibility they have in their bank, how many people are under their supervision, how much money they earn each month. If these finance guys have a little self respect, they won’t be that anxious to tell the world who they are.
The Manipulative FGs
To make them sound more nice and natural, they never tell the girl that they’re a rich banker directly but in an implicit way. They will say something like:
- “Oh My office is in IFC, you know it was the tallest building in Hong Kong before?”
- “I’m meeting a government officer next week for my company, you know that white-hair guy with a little moustache who just wrote the financial forecast for Hong Kong?”
- “I’m having lunch in a restaurant in Lanmark, members only, maybe I’ll be lucky enough to bring you with me?”
Then, are there any nice FGs?
There are. There are some nice guys in Hong Kong, of course, and some nice guys are happened to be bankers. They care the girl more than himself, they tell the girl what they do in a natural and spontaneous way, they don’t puff (they talk) about their wealth, they get a girl in the way they always do regardless of their being a banker or not. They are intelligent not only to their job but also to deal with life. They are funny and make people happy. And they are happy themselves.
But I think that they’re almost in complete extinction already.
Feel Scared?
You may wonder how come finance guys like these are so excessive in amount in Hong Kong. Well, of course it has to do with Hong Kong’s economic structure of finance, real estate and retail being the largest. But it’s also because of the fact that if there is a supply there must be a demand behind. You might want to read my previous article about 4 Major Characteristics of Hong Kong Girls.
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Ha Ha Ha.. Very nice analysis. Loved it.
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The men get the women they deserve – and vice versa.
What shocks me is the pragmatic materialism of everyone.
The men basically purchase beauty. The women sell themselves.
This is where dating and marriage most closely resemble prostitution.
Thanks for your comment Craig.
To get what they want, they choose to embrace materialism to make them deserved what they want.
We’re living in a society where everyone’s value is based on what people can exchange with. It’s business. But a genuine relationship puts sentiment above business, prostitution doesn’t.
I think that sentiment is also a part of the business. Every sentiment devoted wants to get its repayment. No matter he or she admits or not.
The difference between a business exchange and many relationships is very small. This is why some relationships seem like prostitution.
It’s basically a sale.
I find that sad.
But I do believe that there are still some genuine relationships, maybe not when people are young and hopeless.
Excellent analysis and very true of the nature of most relationships in HK. The only ones I know that have worked out are where both partners are on a equal footing, both professionally, socially, educationally, and financially.
You are right, you get what you pay for.
Thanks for your comment Bidge.
True. Relationships that work are those where both the guy and the girl are compatibly fit to each other in terms of the factors you mentioned. You get what you pay for because there is simply no free lunch on earth.
From a western perspective we see it as ‘prostitution’ but to the pragmatic Chinese female mind it’s called ‘reality’.
The bad thing is, the guys’ mindset has twisted because of his pragmatic approach of girls, then the whole thing is a disaster.
Interesting post. Got a lot out of it. Discussion as well. I think its a bit of a shame that we have resorted our lives to what we have. Yes, genuine relationships do exist, but may be a little more uncommon (and perhaps an ever increasing rarity) as people become more materialistic or choose to pursue materialism over the genuine experiential. It may just depend on the individuals in the relationship and how they approach the development of the relationship.
Thanks for your warm words. I think it’s the individual’s attitude that matters. In the end, most of the people need someone to spend the rest of their life with. You can find the perfect one if you’re lucky, if not, you will and you have to find someone sooner or later. Sometimes if people learn how to embrace the shortcomings of human beings and stop insisting high standards, they will actually be happier.
You know, you are totally right. You actually have some good insights. I must admit I admire the perspectives that you provide especially when it comes to presenting my viewpoints.
Thanks. (Sorry I have to reply here because it doesn’t allow more than 2 replies for 1 comment)
I’m glad that you like my perspectives. I think personal perspectives are what make a person who they actually are. There are too many people not willing to voice out their own opinions because they are afraid of being eliminated in the commercial world. I think people really have to embrace their own viewpoints before they people can trust them.
Of course. I’ll make sure to keep reading your blog as I am very interested in Hong Kong (and have been for a few years).
Thanks. I like sharing my perspectives with others. I think that’s one of the best things I enjoy doing in my life.
You are welcome! I totally agree we need to be expressing ourselves more! Keep up the good work!
Will do.
Hey. Are finance guys impressed with girls who follow fashion?
I wonder who women dress for: for men, or to impress other women?
When they say “For myself”, that’s mostly a lie: You dress to fit in with others/impress others/etc. – that’s why it’s called fashion.
So who do these women dress for: Other women or men?
I’m guessing it’s largely a status game in a fight with other women for attention/to be pretty/to have more desirability.
I know in Korea, most men are happy with reasonable stylishness, but after a relatively low point, most men don’t care or pay much attention.
At home (in Canada), men are even less impressed with stylish girls.
I think that financial guys, or guys in general like girls with a bit of style, but up to some certain points. Sometimes, being more stylish means the girl being more rich which scares guys away. Most of the guys like girls who are of a bit lower-status and earn lower income than them because guys are in control as a natural instinct.
Girls dress to impress guys of course, but this is not the sole reason. They dress to impress other girls too, they dress to show their stylish-ness, they dress to show to their co-workers what they position they are, basically they just dress to convey a message to others about how style she is because what she dresses is expressing what kind of person she is.
Of course all the girls dress to impress other people, as so guys. Imagine if this is a one-man world (not a society), why on earth do people need to get dress? There would be no social dressing codes and no conducts at all.
I am very into fashion because I think this is something I can embrace to tell people who I am. Just like a punk rock skater always dressing in studded leather jacket, or a teacher always wearing knee-length pencil skirt, or an investment banker always sporting a tailor-made suit. I don’t think dressing up means solely to impress people as a tool to get attention, I think it’s also a way of self-expression
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Sadly not most people associate fashion with shopping (materialism). I feel really really sad about it. I am sure if anyone holds a perspective to fashion like me but I think it’s why fashion is a beloved poison to me.
I agree: It’s self-expression. Our ancestors once tattooed and painted their bodies, when there wasn’t a lot of clothing variety. And wore little baubles and shells and did things to their hair.
Just things people do to show off, I guess, eh? This is human nature!
I just wonder about the scene in HK. Here in Seoul, fashion is King.
I would say fashion is about brandnames not the style itself here. If you possess expensive designer products, you are more fashionable.
I think Seoul girls’ infatuation with fashion is bigger than in Hong Kong. They are really stylish I have to say. Hong Kong girls are stylish, but they mainly follow the Japanese and European’s fashion. There are too many international brands invading Hong Kong’s newly established shopping malls, people’s fashion taste is getting diverse here now. Local brands are forced away from the commercial center district. So lots of people are losing the spirit of creating their own style.
Oh you’re talking about fashion. I can’t stop bubbling about this.
Jin I think that there really is a huge distinction between style and fashion and brand. The vulgar new rich only understand a brand and they generally have little sense of style. A sense of style is rare, especially here in Australia. But I notice that the slave to fashion type of actions that the Asian girls often have is just as bad, just because something is ‘in’ now is no measure of how suitable it is for the individual, they need to be more self aware and comprehend what will and will not work for them.
When I dated the girl from HK I mentioned in another thread I learned what a sense of style was and also developed my own. As she is a designer she has professionally developed eye for style and she showed me what is good and bad for me. Even years later I am grateful for that.
So I conclude that a true sense of style relies on a very important factor and that is self awareness.
Hey Bored in Melbourne, (What’s your name?), I think self-awareness of utmost importance to fashion. You can’t rock a outfit that doesn’t suit your body shape and skin tone. When I say to people that “I love fashion”, they will instantly response “so you’re a fashion designer?” or “so let’s go shopping together!”. But fashion is an art (it contains so many things like music, social norms, movie, drama..etc) style is a personal self-expression, designing fashion is a job, shopping is a leisure, sadly people always mix them up.
I’m glad that your ex-girlfriend helped you developed a sense of fashion through a sense of self-awareness. Most of the time those people who are not fashionable are those who are not aware of themselves. They are losing themselves to follow others.
I’m interested because I want to write an article about it. I was just thinking about HK and what HK girls do; also, what would be interesting is men’s fashion.
In Seoul, men wear a lot of colourful clothes. In fact, if I went home with my clothes from Korea, Canadians would think I was gay. But the men’s clothing is really quite… “pretty”. Not a good look in Canada for men, … but I have to say, the men especially are very stylish. men in Canada are supposed to be Men – and not care about such frivolous things.
But the women: Even not-so-pretty women look stunning in the dresses and clothing they wear. Office wear in this “conservative” society (it’s not conservative at all, under the surface: More sex goes on here, not between husbands and wives, either , than anywhere else) is very tight and form-fitting, while still very professional.
I think women feel a lot of pressure to dress well.
HK is much hotter than soul, eh? How little can women get away with wearing there- I mean, is “sexy” a proper look at work or play, and when can women wear what kind of thing?
Those lines are getting blurred here in Seoul.
Men like dressing up in Hong Kong, too. You saw lots of men wear colourful clothes because it’s the big trend of this season. Bright-color clothes are the of-the-moment items.
But I think in general Asian guys dress more colourfully than Western guys. I think it’s because of the hotter weather. When it’s more hot, you want to dress in a more colourful guise to reflect your vibrant mood.
Hong Kong men like dressing up, or I would say they dress up because they embrace the ego of people thinking that they’re rich. Every thing is associated with what others perceive about them. But whether Hong Kong men’s outfits are colourful or not, I can’t tell, because again, colourful clothes are the bid trend now, I don’t want to be too biased.
In Hong Kong, women’s workwear is way less sexy. My friend who lives in Seoul told me that wearing a short dress/skirt to work is a norm, legs are the most important part of a body, you can reveal your legs as much as you can but you can reveal your upper body – shoulders / chest that much because that is considered nasty.
Hong Kong women’s workwear is more conservative, they treat work as work, not a place for fashion. Hong Kong people are being too serious at work (that is another issue) they barely treat their colleague as friends but only “business-mates”. Girls don’t wear short skirt for work. There are some girls who would wear tight dress to work but not many, or only limited to executive-level women. So sometimes I don’t understand why people do on shopping every weekend but barely have the chance to wear all the clothes out. I think that girls would wear the clothes they buy in a date. They shop for clothes to impress guys or their boyfriend, that’s very true.
Its an interesting thing to compare Seoul to Hong Kong. Korean women seem to somewhat more willing to show certain things compared to Hong Kong Chinese. One can even find some of those things even within Korean churches, especially among Korean people my age (I’m 23 at the moment). It would be interesting to read more articles comparing fashion of Hong Kong v Seoul. I kinda agree with a few of the comments about trying to impress their partners. I would be willing to look more into something like that myself.
I want to look at HK versus Seoul fashion – the two fashion capitals of Asia.
Really interests me.
I say go for it. I am interested in reading anything you can dig up. I am interested in both Seoul and Hong Kong (mainly for language purposes but other things as well).
I always want to compare Hong Kong’s fashion with other cities, seems like Seoul fashion may be one of the possible topics to my next article
We should both write an article about it.
I can interview you too.
You have my email.
hongkonggirltalk@gmail.com
That would be cool.
Jin, do you know where I can find some pretty good Cantonese learning resources?
You can go to the link page of my blog. There is a website called Canton168.com and Lost in Mong Kok.
I’ll check those out
Thanks a bunch!
Jin,
I liked this one the best so far. Thanks. But I feel like you want to have your cake and eat it too. Seems you are afraid of going deeper?
What I mean is, you are basically complaining about capitalism and how it twists people. But in the end you believe in it, you believe it leaves this space where you can escape from the negative aspects, but still get to keep the goodies (wealth, career etc).
You end on a Disney note, there are somewhere these dream bankers who aren’t like that, and there are people who succeed in the current culture but don’t take it to heart. Sorry, but no, not really. And the ironic twist that occurs here is that your admirable anti-snob, anti-silliness message ends up as silly and snobbish because it avoids the elephant in the room: that this problem is inside all of us, that we would be that banker or gold digger and its not a matter of just rising above it. By scolding the jerks you indicate they don’t have to be that way, when in fact they do. It is that magic space that you are fantasizing about that helps this all go on, because thats the place they all imagine they will inhabit as soon as they are ready, or if they find the right partner, and the place we all dream about being someday too.
Looking over your blog, it seems like you react intelligently to all the right things, but you are not able to think clearly about them. So we get this kind of-”whoah, crazy dude, like the internet is so whatever and weird”.
Thanks for your comment.
I’m pretty much fascinated by the internet world. I’m a dreamer, I’m ridiculous and irrational, thanks for your criticism. I’m just a girl, I’m not here to please anyone. As being a small part of the virtual community I’m here to share what I see.
I don’t mind being snobbish and naive. If everyone only praise but not criticize, there won’t be any progression in the world to make everyone a better person. Same as if I didn’t get your comment, I wouldn’t have learned a lots of insights and be a better person.
Thanks for your comment, really.
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I agree. Life is to short to worry about “pleasing others”. I mean it’s great to meet people and care for people and also change and grow from others but that’s only if you want to as a person. If you value their words and if you think that’s the right way. I think to succeed in this kind of world you have to remember you are playing the game but not in it. To do what will move you forward but be steadfast in your own character, morals and beliefs and let your actions reflect such. Also, it’s perfectly fine if your morals, character or beliefs changes if it makes YOU happy. But, it isn’t easy to stay grounded and reach for the stars in any respect and as always it is easier said than done.
Thanks for your comment, Ryan. Yes, what you learn from others is what make it valuable for your own development, pleasing others without growing yourself is a mere social disaster.
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Does a short finance guy get hk girls easy?
If you want to know the answer, experience it with a short finance guy friend.